DUST Search - [Idea] The Nyx of dropships

Cat Merc wrote:

Lazer Fo Cused wrote:

Cat Merc wrote:

Lazer Fo Cused wrote:

1. I wish players could stop making up bad ideas for things they do not use or even skill into

2. We have the Eryx and Prometheus which are Logi DS with an inbuild mCRU already on it that was before the CCP 1.7 shake up that no one asked for

3. 90% resists are useless when you know it will be immobilized for 30seconds with 0% resists unless you also include modules which are 40/25% before stacking penalties are added to the 2nd module
3a. 1second spawn time is only good providing players are dead
3b. If it takes you longer than 30seconds to destroy a DS which cannot move then you are bad and should quit
3c. It makes it a sitting duck with very little defences
3d. Even with small turrets on it a FG/railgun/swarms are out of its range and the gunner can get shot out anyways

4. Its basically a module for the start of a game or assaulting a tower camper, use on a militia DS for lolz, spawn an entire team in PC in 1second and you win the game but make sure the pilot has an SSD so you get there 1st and win the game
4a. Makes PC worse than ever, pubs worse than ever

1. You amuse me human
2. They didn't have this mechanic, and were mostly used for being more tanky, not the mCRU
3. 90% resists at 20 seconds when you have troops pouring out of it shooting at you isn't an easy task
3a. From my experience assaulting/defending points, constant spawning is a pain in the arse and will eventually get you
3b. With 90% resists? Not so much
3c. That's the point, uber uplink at any point of the map is a powerful thing
3d. Explain

4. But you said it yourself, you make yourself a sitting duck with very little defenses :P And with Rattati's strike ideas, you're feeding enemies free WP in that case.
4a. That's like, your opinion man

2. They had inbuilt mCRUs

3. Shoot the troops, after 20seconds it loses its 90% and instapop it with any AV you like
3a. Only for 20seconds providing they are dead, afterwards no difference but uplinks are better in general
3b. 90% resists go off after 20seconds, vehicle stuck for another 30seconds after, just wait with AV till after 20seconds and pop it
3c. Use Amarr logi and proto links
3d. Cant shoot at ppl if they are out of its range, and gunners egt shot out anyways

4. Rattati strike ideas are generally bad and will make the game worse off since it will rain strikes
4a. Its fact in PC teams love towers and high ground and basically fight for it, whoever has it wins generally with this idea i would get a pilot upto the tower, land spawn the entire team which sets up shop, 2 FG and all the ammo they need and then they blap every DS out of sight, if orb comes in hop into DS activate mod and tank through the strike with ease, anymore strikes use your hardeners. Add this tactic in pubs and your 16man team can hold the high ground all the time and not worry about a spawn ever again and then infantry will cry and AV will cry because pilots will make it work for them and then it will get nerfed because pilots adapted again

2. Sigh... Read what I said again
3. Well gee, guess those troops can't shoot back! Especially if they're heavies with 1600 eHP!
3a. It's not supposed to replace uplinks, it's a tool
3b. And that's why you bring support through your spawning :)
3c. Well then, didn't know Logis and Uplinks have thousands of eHP
3d. I don't understand what you're trying to say.
4. Your opinion
4a. This mechanic will make no difference in that regard. From my experience if you assault a Forge gun tower, you will take it. I have yet to see them repel an attack once we managed to land.


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Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2014.11.03 16:42:00 - [1] - Quote 1. I wish players could stop making up bad ideas for things they do not use or even skill into 2. We have the Eryx and Prometheus which are Logi DS with an inbuild mCRU already on it that was before the CCP 1.7 shake up that no one asked for 3. 90% resists are useless when you know it will be immobilized for 30seconds with 0% resists unless you also include modules which are 40/25% before stacking penalties are added to the 2nd module 3a. 1second spawn time is only good providing players are dead 3b. If it takes you longer than 30seconds to destroy a DS which cannot move then you are bad and should quit 3c. It makes it a sitting duck with very little defences 3d. Even with small turrets on it a FG/railgun/swarms are out of its range and the gunner can get shot out anyways 4. Its basically a module for the start of a game or assaulting a tower camper, use on a militia DS for lolz, spawn an entire team in PC in 1second and you win the game but make sure the pilot has an SSD so you get there 1st and win the game 4a. Makes PC worse than ever, pubs worse than ever
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2014.11.03 17:52:00 - [2] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. I wish players could stop making up bad ideas for things they do not use or even skill into 2. We have the Eryx and Prometheus which are Logi DS with an inbuild mCRU already on it that was before the CCP 1.7 shake up that no one asked for 3. 90% resists are useless when you know it will be immobilized for 30seconds with 0% resists unless you also include modules which are 40/25% before stacking penalties are added to the 2nd module 3a. 1second spawn time is only good providing players are dead 3b. If it takes you longer than 30seconds to destroy a DS which cannot move then you are bad and should quit 3c. It makes it a sitting duck with very little defences 3d. Even with small turrets on it a FG/railgun/swarms are out of its range and the gunner can get shot out anyways 4. Its basically a module for the start of a game or assaulting a tower camper, use on a militia DS for lolz, spawn an entire team in PC in 1second and you win the game but make sure the pilot has an SSD so you get there 1st and win the game 4a. Makes PC worse than ever, pubs worse than ever 1. You amuse me human 2. They didn't have this mechanic, and were mostly used for being more tanky, not the mCRU 3. 90% resists at 20 seconds when you have troops pouring out of it shooting at you isn't an easy task 3a. From my experience assaulting/defending points, constant spawning is a pain in the arse and will eventually get you 3b. With 90% resists? Not so much 3c. That's the point, uber uplink at any point of the map is a powerful thing 3d. Explain 4. But you said it yourself, you make yourself a sitting duck with very little defenses :P And with Rattati's strike ideas, you're feeding enemies free WP in that case. 4a. That's like, your opinion man 2. They had inbuilt mCRUs 3. Shoot the troops, after 20seconds it loses its 90% and instapop it with any AV you like 3a. Only for 20seconds providing they are dead, afterwards no difference but uplinks are better in general 3b. 90% resists go off after 20seconds, vehicle stuck for another 30seconds after, just wait with AV till after 20seconds and pop it 3c. Use Amarr logi and proto links 3d. Cant shoot at ppl if they are out of its range, and gunners egt shot out anyways 4. Rattati strike ideas are generally bad and will make the game worse off since it will rain strikes 4a. Its fact in PC teams love towers and high ground and basically fight for it, whoever has it wins generally with this idea i would get a pilot upto the tower, land spawn the entire team which sets up shop, 2 FG and all the ammo they need and then they blap every DS out of sight, if orb comes in hop into DS activate mod and tank through the strike with ease, anymore strikes use your hardeners. Add this tactic in pubs and your 16man team can hold the high ground all the time and not worry about a spawn ever again and then infantry will cry and AV will cry because pilots will make it work for them and then it will get nerfed because pilots adapted again
Lazer Fo Cused Shining Flame Amarr Empire 64	Posted - 2014.11.03 18:32:00 - [3] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lazer Fo Cused wrote: 1. I wish players could stop making up bad ideas for things they do not use or even skill into 2. We have the Eryx and Prometheus which are Logi DS with an inbuild mCRU already on it that was before the CCP 1.7 shake up that no one asked for 3. 90% resists are useless when you know it will be immobilized for 30seconds with 0% resists unless you also include modules which are 40/25% before stacking penalties are added to the 2nd module 3a. 1second spawn time is only good providing players are dead 3b. If it takes you longer than 30seconds to destroy a DS which cannot move then you are bad and should quit 3c. It makes it a sitting duck with very little defences 3d. Even with small turrets on it a FG/railgun/swarms are out of its range and the gunner can get shot out anyways 4. Its basically a module for the start of a game or assaulting a tower camper, use on a militia DS for lolz, spawn an entire team in PC in 1second and you win the game but make sure the pilot has an SSD so you get there 1st and win the game 4a. Makes PC worse than ever, pubs worse than ever 1. You amuse me human 2. They didn't have this mechanic, and were mostly used for being more tanky, not the mCRU 3. 90% resists at 20 seconds when you have troops pouring out of it shooting at you isn't an easy task 3a. From my experience assaulting/defending points, constant spawning is a pain in the arse and will eventually get you 3b. With 90% resists? Not so much 3c. That's the point, uber uplink at any point of the map is a powerful thing 3d. Explain 4. But you said it yourself, you make yourself a sitting duck with very little defenses :P And with Rattati's strike ideas, you're feeding enemies free WP in that case. 4a. That's like, your opinion man 2. They had inbuilt mCRUs 3. Shoot the troops, after 20seconds it loses its 90% and instapop it with any AV you like 3a. Only for 20seconds providing they are dead, afterwards no difference but uplinks are better in general 3b. 90% resists go off after 20seconds, vehicle stuck for another 30seconds after, just wait with AV till after 20seconds and pop it 3c. Use Amarr logi and proto links 3d. Cant shoot at ppl if they are out of its range, and gunners egt shot out anyways 4. Rattati strike ideas are generally bad and will make the game worse off since it will rain strikes 4a. Its fact in PC teams love towers and high ground and basically fight for it, whoever has it wins generally with this idea i would get a pilot upto the tower, land spawn the entire team which sets up shop, 2 FG and all the ammo they need and then they blap every DS out of sight, if orb comes in hop into DS activate mod and tank through the strike with ease, anymore strikes use your hardeners. Add this tactic in pubs and your 16man team can hold the high ground all the time and not worry about a spawn ever again and then infantry will cry and AV will cry because pilots will make it work for them and then it will get nerfed because pilots adapted again 2. Sigh... Read what I said again 3. Well gee, guess those troops can't shoot back! Especially if they're heavies with 1600 eHP! 3a. It's not supposed to replace uplinks, it's a tool 3b. And that's why you bring support through your spawning :) 3c. Well then, didn't know Logis and Uplinks have thousands of eHP 3d. I don't understand what you're trying to say. 4. Your opinion 4a. This mechanic will make no difference in that regard. From my experience if you assault a Forge gun tower, you will take it. I have yet to see them repel an attack once we managed to land. 2. Logi DS mCRU already on it and if it has more tank its because it could fit a better tank no need for this idea 3. Just shoot back, doesnt matter, just shoot anyways and it becomes a firefight 3a. Uplinks are a better tool 3b. Better bring in snipers then to stop FG shooting it to bits 3c. Dont need thousands of EHP if they are placed in good areas 3d. Gunners as a defence on the ship to protect it when it lands are useless 4. Strikes got spammed in closed beta and eventually cap got raised because of this, we are going backwards and everyone has forgotten this 4a. The DS is already up there with FG which shoot you down before you get close, even so the pilot can nip in activate the module and then 4heavys spawn in and **** you if you managed to land or more like crash while there DS is fine. It just makes holding it even easier